Dear Comrade,
The subcommittee constituted by the National Anomaly Committee to go into the anomalies in respect of MACP issues met at New Delhi on 15th Inst. Com. S.K.Vyas, President, Confederation attended the meeting as a member. The following is the outcome of discussion at the meeting.
With greetings,
Yours fraternally,
Sd/-
K.K.N. Kutty
Secretary General
Given below is the Record note on the meeting of Joint Committee on MACP held on 15.03.2011.
The third meeting of joint committee on MACP was held today i.e 15.03.2011. This meeting was held at the specific request by the Secretary Staff Side, National Council JCM to review the decision taken in the earlier meetings in which all items had been discussed.
Item Nos. 1,3,8,9 and 29: Grant of financial up-gradation in the promotional hierarchy instead of grade pay hierarchy under MACP Scheme
The Staff Side pressed this demand on the ground that the ACP 1999 had become a service condition in respect of all those who were in service as on 31st August 2008. The MACP Scheme being less advantageous could not be imposed upon them. They stated that to resolve this anomaly, the first 2 ACPs may be continued in the promotional hierarchy to be granted after 12 and 24 years of service from the date of induction, the third ACP on completion of 30 years service may be in the grade pay hierarchy. The official Side did not agree with this proposal. The Staff Side then pointed out that the introduction of MACP Scheme in grade pay hierarchy 10, 20, 30 years of service from the date of induction will result that certain cadres would be placed in the grade pay which are not sanctioned in the structure of the departments and therefore it can not be treated as career progression at all. The official Side wanted the particulars of those cadres which are going to face this problem, so that they could consider how to overcome such anomalies. The Staff Side agreed to provide the necessary information and departments concerned may also be asked to provide such information.
Item Nos. 2, 10 and 48:
The Staff Side also pressed for introducing MACP Scheme with effect from 1.1.2006 so that those who did not get any benefit under old ACP could at least get the MACP scheme benefit before their retirement during the period from 1.1.2006 to 31.8.2008. The Official Side stated that this item has been closed and concluded and can not be allowed to be opened / reviewed. The Staff Side then stated that they would like to raise this issue in the meeting of National Anomaly Committee as the joint Committee on MACP Scheme is sub committee of the National Anomaly Committee. The Official Side stated that this may be raised as afresh item in the National Anomaly Committee.
The Staff Side also wanted that the option to choose ACP or MACP should be given to the individual employees and not the Department. The Official Side also did not agree to reopen this issue which has been concluded in the last meeting.
Item No. 57: Ignoring the placement of Artisans of Ministry of Defence from HS grade II to HS grade I for the purpose of MACP Scheme.
The Staff Side pointed out that this restructuring by keeping 50% of Artisans in the HS grade I and placing 50% in the HS grade II was by way of placement and therefore it could not be treated as promotion. The Staff Side cited Supreme Court ruling to this effect. However the Official Side did not agree with this. The case of restructuring in IA & AD in 1984 and in organized accounts were also cited in which it was clearly stated that those who are in the higher grade would be treated as placement only those who are promoted later on against vacancies would be treated as promotion. The official Side view was that only in those cases where the entire cadre is placed in the higher pay scale it would not be treated as promotion. This matter will also have to be raised in the meeting of National Anomaly Committee.
Items Nos. 11, 15, 22, 39, 47 and 51: Promotion in identical Grade Pay.
The decision that the normal promotions are in the same grade pay, they cannot be ignored for purpose of MACP Scheme and the specific cases would be examined separately.
Item Nos. 12, 30 and 49: Employees appointed limited competitive examination from lower to higher post may treated as direct recruits in the higher post ignoring the service in the lower posts.
The matter is still being considered with reference to old ACP scheme clarification.
Item Nos. 13, 32, 38, 44, 50 and 58: Counting of old service in the new establishments for the purpose off MACP. And Item Nos. 21, 27, and 28: Benchmark for financial up gradation under MACP.
Orders have been issued on 1.11.2010.
It was agreed that action taken statement would be finalized and circulated so that further discussion thereon can take place in the meeting of National Anomaly Committee.
Tuesday, March 22, 2011
Sunday, March 13, 2011
Delhi Visit
Dated 2nd March 2011
Dear Comrades,
In order to follow up the pending demands with the newly taken over Addl. Member, Finance, ED-PC 1 and other Railway Board Officials, I along with Sri. PARTHA BHATTACHARJEE, Working president camped in New Delhi from 21st to 23rd February’2011. We had fruitful meetings and detailed discussions with Railway Board Officials and submitted reminders on all the pending demands.
1. Regarding the anomalies in MACP, though we had already brought to the notice of the Officials about the Recorded Notes on the MACP anomalies committee meeting held on 15-09-2010 issued by DOPT, so far papers have not yet been initiated by Railway Board. The Addl. Member, Finance assured to look into the papers and initiate action on our demand for treating the promotion as JAA on passing Appendix IIA Exam as Recruitment. We also met Hon’ble M.P Sri. Ravindra Kumar Pandey for his intervention in this regard and he assured to raise the issue through a question in LokSabha.
2. On our demand for calculating the Sr.AA posts as 5% of on the combined strength of SO(A)s and Sr.SO(A)s since both the cadres have been merged by pay Commission, File is under process for reconsideration based on the copies of letters issued by Ministry of Finance in respect of Civil Accounts Staff submitted by us during our earlier visit.
3. We reiterated the demand for promotion of erstwhile Group D Staff now in Group C Status on seniority basis to the post of Accounts Clerk and the officials agreed to examine the matter. We also demanded modification of Recruitment Rules in this regard.
4. Regarding Cadre Restructuring in Accounts department, we placed the following proposals.
a. To mitigate the grievance of Accounts Clerks stagnated in the cadre for want of vacancies in JAA cadre, AIRASA requested for change in the 80 : 20 pattern as 20 : 80 since there are no direct recruitments being made. The proposal was well received and the Accounts directorate Officials promised to initiate papers in this regard.
b. Similarly the ratio of ASVs : Sr. ASVs may be modified from the present 65 : 35 to 20 : 80 as large number of posts are in work charged posts under Sales Organisation which varies from year to year. At present virtually only 10 % are in Sr.ASV cadre.
c. The Sr.AAs cadre should be raised to 10% of merged strength of Section Officers on par with other organized Audit and Accounts depts.
We submitted reminders on the following issues.
a. For change of designations on par with the Organised Accounts and Audit departments.
b. Reintroduction of Grant of increments for passing App. IIA, App.IIIA and IV Examinations.
c. Modification of Recruitment Rules for selection to the post of AAOs and submitted the copies of Recruitment Rules of other Organised Accounts and Audit which contains selection by seniority cum suitability only.
d. On the issue of TIA/ISA group App III passed candidates waiting for promotion for more than 15 years , reminders have been submitted to give adhoc promotions as available in CAG’s Offices and the officials were also requested to give directions to all the Zonal Railways to create additional posts of TIAs and ISAs.
e. Improved VI PC Grade Pays in respect of Accounts Clerks, JAAs, AAs, FPEs, Typists and Stenoraphers.
f. We also insisted the need for extending the Special Allowance to those ASVs who came from the Cadre of JAAs. We also pointed out that many Railways are not granting MACP to Stock Verifiers duly taking their combined service in AA and ASV cadre and requested for issue of clarifications in this regard.
Group B Status to SO(A)/TIA/ISA.
We expressed our anguish over non affording of Group B Status to SO(A)/TIA/ISA to top Railway Board Officials and requested them to have a fresh look into the issue since the demand is based on the upgradation of these posts to the Scale of Rs.7500-12000 by the VI PC vide para 7.56.9. The matter has been taken up through the Petitions Committee of Parliament also with the recommendation of a Lok Sabha M.P.
Yours Comradely,
(N.SRINIVASAN)
General Secretary
Dear Comrades,
In order to follow up the pending demands with the newly taken over Addl. Member, Finance, ED-PC 1 and other Railway Board Officials, I along with Sri. PARTHA BHATTACHARJEE, Working president camped in New Delhi from 21st to 23rd February’2011. We had fruitful meetings and detailed discussions with Railway Board Officials and submitted reminders on all the pending demands.
1. Regarding the anomalies in MACP, though we had already brought to the notice of the Officials about the Recorded Notes on the MACP anomalies committee meeting held on 15-09-2010 issued by DOPT, so far papers have not yet been initiated by Railway Board. The Addl. Member, Finance assured to look into the papers and initiate action on our demand for treating the promotion as JAA on passing Appendix IIA Exam as Recruitment. We also met Hon’ble M.P Sri. Ravindra Kumar Pandey for his intervention in this regard and he assured to raise the issue through a question in LokSabha.
2. On our demand for calculating the Sr.AA posts as 5% of on the combined strength of SO(A)s and Sr.SO(A)s since both the cadres have been merged by pay Commission, File is under process for reconsideration based on the copies of letters issued by Ministry of Finance in respect of Civil Accounts Staff submitted by us during our earlier visit.
3. We reiterated the demand for promotion of erstwhile Group D Staff now in Group C Status on seniority basis to the post of Accounts Clerk and the officials agreed to examine the matter. We also demanded modification of Recruitment Rules in this regard.
4. Regarding Cadre Restructuring in Accounts department, we placed the following proposals.
a. To mitigate the grievance of Accounts Clerks stagnated in the cadre for want of vacancies in JAA cadre, AIRASA requested for change in the 80 : 20 pattern as 20 : 80 since there are no direct recruitments being made. The proposal was well received and the Accounts directorate Officials promised to initiate papers in this regard.
b. Similarly the ratio of ASVs : Sr. ASVs may be modified from the present 65 : 35 to 20 : 80 as large number of posts are in work charged posts under Sales Organisation which varies from year to year. At present virtually only 10 % are in Sr.ASV cadre.
c. The Sr.AAs cadre should be raised to 10% of merged strength of Section Officers on par with other organized Audit and Accounts depts.
We submitted reminders on the following issues.
a. For change of designations on par with the Organised Accounts and Audit departments.
b. Reintroduction of Grant of increments for passing App. IIA, App.IIIA and IV Examinations.
c. Modification of Recruitment Rules for selection to the post of AAOs and submitted the copies of Recruitment Rules of other Organised Accounts and Audit which contains selection by seniority cum suitability only.
d. On the issue of TIA/ISA group App III passed candidates waiting for promotion for more than 15 years , reminders have been submitted to give adhoc promotions as available in CAG’s Offices and the officials were also requested to give directions to all the Zonal Railways to create additional posts of TIAs and ISAs.
e. Improved VI PC Grade Pays in respect of Accounts Clerks, JAAs, AAs, FPEs, Typists and Stenoraphers.
f. We also insisted the need for extending the Special Allowance to those ASVs who came from the Cadre of JAAs. We also pointed out that many Railways are not granting MACP to Stock Verifiers duly taking their combined service in AA and ASV cadre and requested for issue of clarifications in this regard.
Group B Status to SO(A)/TIA/ISA.
We expressed our anguish over non affording of Group B Status to SO(A)/TIA/ISA to top Railway Board Officials and requested them to have a fresh look into the issue since the demand is based on the upgradation of these posts to the Scale of Rs.7500-12000 by the VI PC vide para 7.56.9. The matter has been taken up through the Petitions Committee of Parliament also with the recommendation of a Lok Sabha M.P.
Yours Comradely,
(N.SRINIVASAN)
General Secretary
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